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darkydog2002 26th October 2010 08:25 PM

Saturday System.
 
Top 6 IASbet Opening Price

Last Start 1 - 4

Last 3 Starts in Current Campaign = 10 or less

Weight Today 55 Kg +

Good TC today but eliminate if TC last start was on a slow/heavy track.

Last Run Won or within 2 L of winner at 1000 - 1600 M or within 3 L at 1650 - 3200 M

Leader or On pace runner

Class = same or drop (If drop weight increase no more that 3 kg - take from Limit weight.- see Sportsman.)
If using Wizard online FS no more than +3

Senior rider to 1.5 kg apptc

Only Male horses.

I personally like the horses last run within 14 days but make your own judgement.

Staking .
Multiply opening price X 1.2 to get Minimum acceptable price.

Cheers
darky

lighthuman2010 26th October 2010 08:37 PM

Darky,

Hard mechanical systems like these, just don't work long term.

As I said in the other thread, you need to stop looking at these systems.

As you have said, you find it very hard to win long-term. Well these systems would certainly be one of the reasons you are struggling.

darkydog2002 26th October 2010 08:52 PM

As this one is based on very sound principles it should hold its own .

Personally though i much prefer profiling the horses at 55 kg + in good betting races.i.e Price wise.

Far from being a struggling punter I retired from the punt at age 45

Dont infer that because I post a total bit of nonsense occasionally i know nothing about horse racing.Just having a bit of fun and we,re all entitled to that.

Re systems. I used to swap a few and acquired over 600 .None would be worth the paper they,re printed on except for a few that were acquired privately.
As a very well known investor once told me .Any method of horse handicapping should be based around ratings and the 2 best sevices both free that I found were R+S and unitab.
Nowadays its more a intellectual pursuit rather than taking anything too seriously.
Cheers
darky

lighthuman2010 26th October 2010 08:57 PM

Post deleted. Off topic and not a discussion of what was posted but of the poster.

darkydog2002 27th October 2010 08:23 AM

In my early days I always used Warren Blocks Ratings as did Don Scott in his later years.
Nowadays if I have the occasional punt I use the Don Scott R+S and Unitab.
Having a set of ratings though is no garuntee of success - one still has to achieve a decent price.And inmost cases one has to re rate the ratings to take into account factors that should have been put in but were,nt.

Re Mind numbing .To me sitting behind a computer screen 7 days a week on the chance that something of value comes up is certainly not joy of joys.

I,d been interested in your approach now that you now know mine.

Cheers
darky

Bhagwan 31st October 2010 07:39 PM

Dear Mr. Lighthuman,
Please dont make the mistake by thinking that Darky is some thumb sucking Gumby, when it comes to the punt, he is highly successful & knowledgable of such matters, although he does not always show it with some of the fun systems mentioned, because he is not arrogant.

He could talk to you about complicated analysis of sectional times , but feels your eyes may just glaze over in the process.

His motto is to have fun when on the punt, no matter what approach one adopts , being unpleasant & mean is uncalled for , so please make ammends to address this accordingly.

You should, my friend, get down on your knees & beg forgivenes from your betters ,for your wicked ways.

Cheers and try and enjoy the Punt.

lighthuman2010 31st October 2010 07:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
Dear Mr. Lighthuman,
Please dont make the mistake by thinking that Darky is some thumb sucking Gumby, when it comes to the punt, he is highly successful & knowledgable of such matters, although he does not always show it with some of the fun systems mentioned, because he is not arrogant.

He could talk to you about complicated analysis of sectional times , but feels your eyes may just glaze over in the process.

His motto is to have fun when on the punt, no matter what approach one adopts , being unpleasant & mean is uncalled for , so please make ammends to address this accordingly.

You should, my friend, get down on your knees & beg forgivenes from your betters ,for your wicked ways.

Cheers and try and enjoy the Punt.
Bhagwan,

I have never been "mean" to your old friend Darky. In fact quite the opposite, I have been trying to help him.

Darky has admitted on here several times he is a long-term losing punter. And the systems he posts on here certainly indicate he would be. He also makes false comments such as , "no professional punter ever backs only 1 horse per race." All I have tried to do is pass on some of my knowledge and experience, as a successful punter, to help him see the light.

In return I was abused by Darky.

But I am man enough to take that and I will continue to help him. However, he really needs to help himself before he can be helped by others.

Just like yourself Bhagwan who is a long-term loser on the punt, I have tried to help.

As I explained in the Mr Barry thread, your theory of "stopping for the day" is flawed and is the reason you would be having little success.

Again, I will explain to you. If you need to stop for the day, your method has no long-term edge.

Jump back over to Mr Barry's thread mate and hopefully you and your old mate can learn a thing or two. You never know, you might even be able to make a dollar or two out this game one day.

Bhagwan 1st November 2010 07:08 PM

Thank you for attempt on trying to enlighten me Mr. Lighthuman but after looking at that Mr. Barry thing , I feel no more informed.

I like stopping at a fixed percentage because I find it works well for me seeing I bet 7 days a week .
I also use a stop loss , to minimise damage on a bad day.
It manages to show profits each month .

You may very well have an edge & I hope it does not fade on you , but horse racing sometimes has days which cannot be explained why they have horror days so this has to be taken into account if adopting the stratergy you have adopted.

Most punters are ahead at some stage , then continue onwards , only to give it all back & some, so adopting a percentage can help if that is happening.

If you ask the average punter how many winners is he going to pick tomorrow, he would not have a clue on how to answer the question.
That usually sums up the average punter, they dont know when to stop .

If one can say stop at a max of 5 winners , that would be a start.

When doing single win selections.
Thinking one is going to pick another 5 winners after the first 5, is pure gambling, which can be OK if it is viewed as such..


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