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Barny 9th February 2011 09:41 PM

Improvers
 
1) Horse must have improved at each and every run from a spell, measured by it's placing in the races, not lengths beaten.

2) Horse must be increasing in distance at each and every run from a spell.

3) If there's more than one selection, pick the one with the most runs this time in eg: A = s62 & B = 873 = Selection is B

You can direct deposit into my bank account as a measure of your gratitude.

Sands 17th February 2011 08:17 AM

Thanks Barny
Bit surprised lengths beaten not part of rule 1
The cheque's in the mail ;)

Barny 17th February 2011 11:24 AM

The more runs the horse has, the better, ie: 0741 is a much better proposition than say 62.

It could be the basis of a decent system.

darkydog2002 17th February 2011 01:37 PM

Any cutoff points ?
i.e Last 4 starts ,5,6 etc

or LS must be 1 - 4

Cheers
darky

Barny 17th February 2011 01:51 PM

darkydog, this is not well researched at all, just an observation from reading 5+ years worth of form guides I have at my disposal. The better ones seem to be 3 starts plus. It has thrown up some decent winners, but the rule of increasing in distance cuts out a few decent longshot winners.

I'm sure it could be the start of a decent system.

At the moment I'm finishing rules to select a stable.

Have you looked into the proposition that a horses SR taken at a certain point in time will decrease at a rate of about 15% in the future, (obviously with a couple of filters.)

So, 25% SR now (with filters) will become 20% (approx) over the next few years.

It's as reliable as the favourite winning 30% of the time.

darkydog2002 17th February 2011 02:01 PM

Hi Barney,
I used to correspond with a gent who used this system but going back 4 starts and didnt consider the increase in distance factor.He did quite well on gallops and dogs.

The decrease in Win % could be to do with age - the best racing years of a thoroughbred beng 3 - 4 or 5 .From there on in the majority of horses a gradual decline in performance is expected.

Cheers
darky

Barny 17th February 2011 02:24 PM

I'm declining with age ........... sigh, but I never had a decent SR to start with !

lomaca 17th February 2011 03:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Barny
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So, 25% SR now (with filters) will become 20% (approx) over the next few years.

It's as reliable as the favourite winning 30% of the time.
Barny, there is a reason why most serious punters only look at the last three runs of a horse,while at the same time taking notice of (but not being blinded by) the past performance.

Just as you said "I'm declining with age" horses do that too, but the opposite is also true! (provided you are young enough)

I'm a great believer in betting on first up horses over short distances, but the first up record HAS to be recent! Most form guides only tell you the number of first up starts and the outcome.

Could have happened 5 years ago!!
Jeeez, five years ago I could see my toes!

Good luck

Barny 17th February 2011 03:59 PM

lomaca, I like win % of horses, but for example I do take notice of recent campaigns too. It's not a hard and fast rule for the particular period in which I'm evaluating my selection, but the % I'm looking for is !

Toes ..... hmmmm

darkydog2002 17th February 2011 04:43 PM

I,ve been on a diet so starting to see my toes.Gees its been a long time.


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