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michaelg 15th February 2011 05:02 PM

Don Scott - Food For Thought?
 
Just out of interest, here's a little something I looked at before today's races began.

I looked at Don Scott's market where the fave and second fave are within $1.00 of each other.

I then recorded all selections under $20 in his market.

There have been 4 races run so far and the results are.

Got all 4 winners. Outlay of $19 - return of $22.60 (NSW TAB)

Got all 4 quinellas. Outlay of $37 - return of $47

Got 3 trifectas. Outlay of $228 - return of $490

Got 2 F.Fours. Outlay of $528 - return of $5,000


One more race to go.

Goulburn R7. nos. 2, 4,9, 12.

We'll see how it goes as it is yet to run.

lomaca 15th February 2011 05:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Just out of interest, here's a little something I looked at before today's races began.

I looked at Don Scott's market where the fave and second fave are within $1.00 of each other.

I then recorded all selections under $20 in his market.

Hi Michael,
so which ones did you bet on then?

All of them under $20 or EXCLUDED the two shortest and bet on the rest under $20?

Cheers

michaelg 15th February 2011 06:46 PM

lomaca, I didn't bet on them, unfortunately. I'm looking at backing all selections that qualify for the method regardless of their starting price.

In the last race we lost in a photo. Win betting on all today's selections would have had a loss of $0.40 on the TAB, but I'm sure they would have been profitable on Betfair. And the three types of exotic bets would also have been profitable.

It's something I'll look at. Maybe the $1 rule might have some merit...?

michaelg 16th February 2011 11:48 AM

We'll see how today's selections fare:

Mornington
2/7, 9, 11
5/1, 2, 4, 8, 9
6/1, 4, 8, 11, 12

Eagle Farm
4/1, 2, 6, 7, 11
6/3, 8, 9, 12

Murray Bridge
5/3, 4, 12, 16, 19
8/3, 4, 7, 11, 13, 15

Bunbury
2/2, 3, 4, 6
4/2, 5, 7, 12
8/3, 4, 8, 10,12

michaelg 16th February 2011 02:42 PM

I just checked the current results. Two races have been run.

Got both winners for a return of $33.50 on NSWTAB and $38.40 on Betfair S.P., (which fortunately I have bet) and includes the 5% commission.

Got both quinellas for a return of $48.

Got one trifecta for a return of $620.

Not too bad a result seeing that the total Win outlay was $46, the quinella outlay was $81, and the trifecta outlay was $558.

garyf 16th February 2011 02:57 PM

food for thought
 
hi michaelg
a semi-professional punting mate of mine uses the don scott ratings this way hits the clear button on (form)( condition)(consistency)(barrier position)(jockey) then hits submit leaving the market at 90% only considers horses priced at less than <$11.0 in the market and only considers races where their are no more than 4 chances at <$11.0 so you are effectively looking at the top =4 (best recent run) only so a straight don scott weight rating as i have no back data maybe wesmip1 or lomaca could investigate in all fairness this may worsen the profits on your system i have absolutely no idea food for thought i guess as i said may not work at all he only bets when the minimum price is $3.0> and only considers races where all horses have had at least 2 starts> bets melb sydney metro only
cheers
garyf

michaelg 16th February 2011 03:50 PM

Hi, Garyf.

I presume your mate wins?

I find that D.S. prices can be at times puzzling, and the trick imho is to know what races to bet to use his market. I would assume if your mate continually wins, then he's found a way to do so.

I'm hoping my idea of the $1 difference might be successful too, even though I have no valid reason to expect it to, except maybe for stability of D.S.'s market?

Just got another winner of $14.35 - I can't lose now, even with six more races to go.

lomaca 16th February 2011 04:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by michaelg
Hi, Garyf.

I'm hoping my idea of the $1 difference
That is what I was asking about yesterday Michael, I would have thought, that either you bet on those two, or leave the race alone?

What's your reasoning? Only if it's not something you want to keep to yourself of course.
Sometimes the strangest ideas have the best outcome.

Good luck

michaelg 16th February 2011 04:14 PM

The $1 difference is hoping that it is the right race to bet on using the D.S. market.

I don't have any real reason for this. I think its because I've often noticed some of his faves are odds-on in his market and the form does not support such a short price. And as you say, sometimes the strangest ideas have the best outcome.

There's only one way to find out.

garyf 16th February 2011 04:17 PM

food for thought
 
hi michael no my mate loses he's won 3 out of 5 years small wins when he won small losses when he loses still works that's why i class him semi pro compared to what he used to lose this system cuts his losses big time filters are distance and field size the night meetings are the killer moonee valley and canterbury can't convince him to stop betting them better off giving it a miss stick with what you've got now i reckon good luck dream start today for sure.
cheers
garyf.


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