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UselessBettor 18th October 2011 08:40 PM

The 3333 System
 
Something I was playing with and thought I would share from my website for testing your systems:

There were 24142 horse form lines in the database at this point in time.
There were 160 selections for the System
There were 100 which Lost (did not win race) for the System for a strike rate of 62.5%
You had to pay out $129.81 but brought in $152 after 5% commission. This means a Profit or loss of $22.19 or a percentage profit/loss of 13.87%

I called this the 3333 system because the rules are as follows:

Win Price <= 3
TAB Number <= 3
Barrier <= 3
Place Strike Rate Rank <= 3
Bet Type = LAY

I encourage others to share the systems they find. If you post it as above then its easy to run a future test in a week, month, year when there is more data in the database and compare the results. You can then see if the system held up over time.

partypooper 20th October 2011 01:06 AM

I encourage others to share the systems they find. If you post it as above then its easy to run a future test in a week, month, year when there is more data in the database and compare the results. You can then see if the system held up over time. [QUOTE]

G'Day UB, I agree it would be great to share ideas to this extent, but the problem is there are some charlatans, i.e the dregs of society who also peruse these pages for any idea that MAY hold water, then package them with glitter advertise it in THEIR so called magazines, and sell the blue dy things to the mugs, sorry to use the word but mugs it is!

It has happened more than a few times.

Bhagwan 21st October 2011 04:58 AM

Heres a couple of Backing plans.

Don Scott = 1
TAB No. <= 2
Dist => 1800m

Result
35% SR
32% POT

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Don Scott = 1
Barrier => 10

Result
25% SR
28% POT

Bhagwan 21st October 2011 05:28 AM

This will need more testing.
It looks too good.

Backing Plan

RULES
Price <= 5.00
TAB No. = 3 exactly .
Last Start = 5th exactly
Career wins => 1

Result
77% SR
30% POT

Bhagwan 21st October 2011 05:40 AM

This one looks very promising

RULES
Don Scott = 1
Place SR Ranking <= 2

Result
49% SR (839 winners from 1700 races)
41% POT

aussielongboat 23rd October 2011 12:38 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
This one looks very promising

RULES
Don Scott = 1
Place SR Ranking <= 2

Result
49% SR (839 winners from 1700 races)
41% POT


are they the only 2 filters??

Bhagwan 24th October 2011 03:41 AM

Yes they are.

The art to system creation, is to show a profit with as few rules as possible.

That's the hard bit.

That way they have a greater chance of repeating themselves down the line.


The more complicated the rules , the less likely it will repeat itself .
And that's the main reason why most systems fail.

aussielongboat 24th October 2011 07:48 AM

the reson i asked you is that these are then results i got from
http://testyoursystem.000space.com/TestSystem.php

and I quote:
Test your Horse Racing System - Results

Below are the results of your system. If you were testing Laying it is against the higher price available. if you test betting its agaisnt the lower available value on betfair.

There were 26286 horse form lines in the database at this point in time. We update when we get time.

There were 964 selections for the System
There were 298 Winners for the System for a strike rate of 30.91%
There were $925.87 returned for WIN (after 5% commission) which means a Profit or loss of $-38.13 or a percentage profit/loss of -3.96%

Test Another System

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that why i asked.
they are much different to what you have said.

cheers

aussie.

bernie 24th October 2011 09:38 AM

aussielongboat, I have found similar results from Bhagwan's system test results. I followed the system you were enquiring about throughout the day on paper. I got nothing like the results Bhagwan presented. In fact the result was well into the negative.

Bernie

aussielongboat 24th October 2011 09:51 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhagwan
This will need more testing.
It looks too good.

Backing Plan

RULES
Price <= 5.00
TAB No. = 3 exactly .
Last Start = 5th exactly
Career wins => 1

Result
77% SR
30% POT


when you start saying things like "tab = 3" and "last start =5" - IMHO you are just back fitting a lucky set of numbers which may never be repeated.
you may as well say
and " only barrier = 7, 10 and 11" or
"Richard Callender has 4 smokes between races 3 and 4"

as I read somewhere-
"The more complicated the rules , the less likely it will repeat itself ."
LOL

just my opinion.
good luck

Aussie.


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