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Vortech 16th August 2012 07:20 PM

Metro System
 
Barny with your 12 years of data are you able to run me a little test of a mechnical system I used to use.

I looked at Metro racing in Melbourne, Sydney and Brisbane only
Must be API = 1
Age is a 5 or 6 year
Win % must be over 26% and the place below 50% (i'll give my reasons later if this has held up over the test of time)
Weight = 55kg to 59kg and last margin is less than 5 lengths.

Summary below:

Vortech Metro Rules
Venue: MSB
Age of Horse: 5 - 6
Horse Win %: 27 - 100
Horse Place %: 0 - 49
Weight to Carry: 55.0 - 59.0
Last Start Margin: 0.0 - 5.0
Av Prizemoney Rank: 1 - 1

enjay 16th August 2012 09:45 PM

Vortech Metro Rules
Venue: MSB
Age of Horse: 5 - 6
Horse Win %: 27 - 100
Horse Place %: 0 - 49
Weight to Carry: 55.0 - 59.0
Last Start Margin: 0.0 - 5.0
Av Prizemoney Rank: 1 - 1[/QUOTE]

Hi Vortech with above rules back to late 1999 the results are :-

Meetings considered : 24393
Win Strike Rate/Seln. : 26.1%
Plc Strike Rate/Seln. : 50.3%
Average Win Dividend : $7.85
Average Plc Dividend : $2.24

WIN
Races Bet: 157
Races Won: 41
S.R./Race: 26.1%
Outlay($): 157.00
Return : 321.70
$ Profit : 164.70
% P.O.T. : 104.9% 103.6%

SMB VORTECH
Venue: SMB
Age of Horse: 5 - 6
Horse Win %: 27 - 100
Horse Place %: 0 - 49
Weight to Carry: 55.0 - 59.0
Last Start Margin: 0.0 - 5.0
Av Prizemoney Rank: 1 - 1

Looks like we are using the same program...

Regards

Enjay

Vortech 17th August 2012 04:42 AM

One bet a month. Not a lot of action.

Enjay I've got a few of these systems since stored away on my other PC.

Are you happy for me to send them through to an email address in return for you to test for me.

I'm happy for you to use the systems - as long as they are not published in a commercial sense.

enjay 17th August 2012 07:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortech
One bet a month. Not a lot of action.

Enjay I've got a few of these systems since stored away on my other PC.

Are you happy for me to send them through to an email address in return for you to test for me.

I'm happy for you to use the systems - as long as they are not published in a commercial sense.



No problems and I can assure you that you have no worries re your last paragraph.

Try sabu at northnet with all the dots and coms plus au.

Cheers
Enjay

Vortech 17th August 2012 07:31 AM

I'm sure a couple of years ago you did some testing for me when I was twisting and tweeting a couple of old systems from other commercial products.

In the end these systems were never going to hold up into the future.

Are you still punting on the Radio TAB or move onto some fresh system ideas?

enjay 17th August 2012 08:42 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortech
I'm sure a couple of years ago you did some testing for me when I was twisting and tweeting a couple of old systems from other commercial products.

In the end these systems were never going to hold up into the future.

Are you still punting on the Radio TAB or move onto some fresh system ideas?


Hi Vortech
I have had a total computer wipeout and consequently have lost your last email..Slip me another message at above address and I will fill you in.

Enjay

Vortech 17th August 2012 08:44 AM

I'll reboot the old bad boy up and send you through some of the system changes I have on file.

Basically I'm looking for any sort of consistent results.

Barny 17th August 2012 12:54 PM

I get a POT of 64.81% on seln's of 79 for 25 winners

Looks good, it's typical of the system results I get. Very few bets which some on here don't see as proven system.

Vortech 19th August 2012 08:38 AM

Barny, with your systems - out of interest:

Obviously they make a profit long term 12 years.

Does the system/s make a profit each year of testing?

The reason I ask is I see a lot of systems making profit for say a period 2006 to 2012. But when tested between 1999 to 2005 the results aren't very good.

This can either mean one of two things -
a. the system is backfiltered over a good period of time (6yrs) and could turn into a loss if used into the future
b. or racing has seen a change and punters are betting differently in the second period of testing and hence - the POT may continue.

PS: During the period of testing for 2006 to 2012 - each year saw a profit not just a large profit one year and small loss the following year.

Whats your thoughts and others?


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