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Star 26th August 2012 06:06 PM

Tatts Bet Late Mail
 
I hve always had a close interest in the Late Mail. But I wonder how it performs against the Favourite and Most fancied by the tipsters.

I think it has a benefit, but how much I do not know. Quite a few are not the favourite, so let's see what the consensus is.

The Ocho 26th August 2012 06:33 PM

In April this year I thought I would check the late mail tips. I only did it for 14 days but I found that if no commission was subtracted and using Unitab prices you would of won +$111.50 LAYING all late mail selections.

It was reduced to winning +$14.40 for laying if it was also the 100 rater, +$29.70 laying if it was also the fav and -$0.50 laying the late mail if it was also the 100 rater AND the fav.

Pretty small sample size (473 bets) but there you go.

TWOBETS 26th August 2012 06:42 PM

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Pretty small sample size (473 bets) but there you go.[/QUOTE]

Interesting stats none the less TO.

I've often wondered about the LM tip when it is not mentioned by the radio or guest tipster. I've got no records but it just seems to come home well often???

Star 26th August 2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TWOBETS
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Pretty small sample size (473 bets) but there you go.
Interesting stats none the less TO.

I've often wondered about the LM tip when it is not mentioned by the radio or guest tipster. I've got no records but it just seems to come home well often???[/QUOTE]
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I agree with Twobets. Which is why I bought it up. But sometimes appearances is not reality.

So I guess it might need further research.

The Ocho 26th August 2012 08:26 PM

The good thing with this sort of system is that it is readily researchable as all the info is there on Tattsbet (Unibet) going back a number of years which is not the case with say the R&S site for checking of other things.

That's all I did at the time - Just went through every race in Australia for a period of time (it was part in February and part in April now that I look a little deeper) and came up with that.

I never looked to see if they weren't tipsters picks or not.

UselessBettor 26th August 2012 09:19 PM

When the late mail is not any other tipsters selection the results are approx a loss of 22%. (1770 total bets)

That is based on tatts odds only.

UselessBettor 26th August 2012 10:14 PM

Thought I would add as a whole Late Mail selections lose 16% over 31,398 selections.

That seems in line with most favs so you couldn't make a profit laying these on betfair.

letsbet 26th August 2012 11:42 PM

how do they go in QLD only ;)

UselessBettor 27th August 2012 07:01 AM

Same, a loss of 16% over 6136 selections.

jose 27th August 2012 02:51 PM

Be very careful with Late Mail selections.

A mate of mine was shares in a horse that was with a certain well known Brisbane stable a while back and it was due to have it's first start.
The trainer told them that it was no real chance and they should keep their powder dry for another day.
Lo and behold it comes up as the Late mail special for the day.
Finished down the track at a very short quote.

Don't know where the tipster got the info from, but it was way wide of the mark.

Further to the above story, the leader of the syndicate that was handling the $$$$ for everyone wasn't passing it on to the trainer, so the trainer more or less bushed the horse into a paddock at his place waiting for the fees.
The horse didn't start again, even though it seemed to have some ability.

Couple of lessons there folks.


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