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Vortech 29th October 2012 12:37 PM

Laying Jockeys
 
Found some interesting information the other day on certain jockeys with their strike rates from certain barriers.

Since 2006 - Nash only has a 2% strike rate from the wide gates.

No surprise he left MJ three deep yet again giving the horse no chance.

Interesting maybe or maybe not!

UselessBettor 29th October 2012 03:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vortech
Found some interesting information the other day on certain jockeys with their strike rates from certain barriers.

Since 2006 - Nash only has a 2% strike rate from the wide gates.

No surprise he left MJ three deep yet again giving the horse no chance.

Interesting maybe or maybe not!

Very interesting.

Vortech 29th October 2012 03:51 PM

I'll send through some support tonight on the data.

jose 29th October 2012 04:10 PM

Well done Vortech.
It as I suspected though, he has got "Gai-itus" ( send them forward at all costs).

Vortech 29th October 2012 04:12 PM

I'll run the stats of her too from a trainers point of view.

Chrome Prince 29th October 2012 04:59 PM

Seems the perfect trainer bookie formula to me.
Send all her horses forward all the time.
When outside barriers, still send forward giving no chance and pocket the punters money.
I've seen far too many Waterhouse horses at short odds and odds on given no chance. But a very bright tactic, because when queried, the jockey simply says he was riding to instructions and this is supported by the previous runs tactics.

Tis a bit like Al Capone running Fosters, only worse.

When are they going to stop whinging about Betfair and look at the obvious conflict of interest, especially given the previous history.

jose 29th October 2012 05:36 PM

Spot on CP.
Punters have very short memories.

DR RON 29th October 2012 05:37 PM

Hi Vortech, when you say the wide gates are you referring to the widest barrier of a given race or a group of barriers from say 10 out. The figures Ive seen from 2007 show that from 17+ he is 0 from 3 but inside that his figures are not too bad.

Vortech 29th October 2012 07:01 PM

Sorry I forget to mention a couple of factors without giving it away

1. Not all days of the week. Saturday is included
2. Distance is a factor. 2000m+
3. Barrier 10 + I considered wide

1 winner from 48 starts I have on the database

But then again look at Nash racing on Saturdays nice October 2007

921 races, 184 winners (20%) with a 3.1%POT

DR RON 29th October 2012 07:32 PM

A good laying proposition, Overall I dont think he has been as good a rider in the last year or two compared to earlier in his career.


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