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puntz 1st July 2003 12:28 AM



[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2003-08-15 13:16 ]

jfc 1st July 2003 07:50 AM

Why do you people keep raking up these mathematically flawed strategies?

In this game you triple your prior stake after each loss.

i.e. you bet this many chips as losses mount:

2
6
18
54
168 (assuming that's within table limits)


So think of it as 4 (maybe 5) level stakes games (with different levels)

Every one should know that you lose playing level stakes at Roulette.

So you'll lose on each of the 4-5 levels.

Add up your individual losses to still get a loss!


If you still don't believe me then read celebrity mathematician Dr E O Thorp's proof:

http://www.urbino.net/articles.cfm?...20Expect ation



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[ This Message was edited by: jfc on 2003-07-01 07:52 ]

[ This Message was edited by: quapi on 2003-07-01 13:24 ]

puntz 4th July 2003 12:47 AM



[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2003-08-15 13:16 ]

jfc 4th July 2003 08:10 AM

Puntz,

your "method" is madness (as are ALL Roulette staking plans).

It is a variation on the absurd Martingale which boils down to "double up after a loss".

This new one triples up after a loss.

It spends far more money than the Martingale hence it should lose far more money.

Both systems are seductive in that you appear to be winning a little all the time. But on the rare occasions you lose, you lose big.

"Winning" $100 an hour suggests 20 spins at a minimum of $10 a spin.

For 20 spins there are ~6 occasions where you need to triple up.

At best this suggests a minimum hourly outlay of $200 + 6*$20 - i.e. $320.

This is costing you 320/37 i.e. ~$9 an hour losses over the long term.


P.S.

Dear Censor,

in case you are again tempted to euphemise the truth, may I remind you I'm paraphrasing Shakespeare (or Marlowe).



puntz 4th July 2003 03:14 PM



[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2003-08-15 13:17 ]

Mr. Logic 4th July 2003 04:41 PM

Puntz, you wrote, "Knowing a loss is eminent then you do not actualy bet on every spin."
If you know a combination at rouleette is going to lose then you bet on the other combinations and win. If everyone knew when losses were abot to happen the game of roulette would no longer be played at casinos. The only methods that can win at roulette are based upon the spin of the ball and faulty equipment.

Hay Chee 4th July 2003 05:04 PM

I agree with punts of course you can no when your going to win and goin to lose thats why you can win at roulet. its no diffrent to the pokees its all in visulisation or something simlar.

puntz 5th July 2003 12:41 AM



[ This Message was edited by: puntz on 2003-08-15 13:17 ]

becareful 5th July 2003 10:15 AM

Spin 7: 2 RTN 0
Spin 8: 6 RTN 0
Spin 9: 18 RTN 0
Spin 10: 54 RTN 0
Spin 11: 168 RTN 0

TOTAL COST: 273 * $5 = $1365
TOTAL Return: 45 * $5 = $225

TOTAL LOSS FOR NIGHT = $1140

So from $85 profit to $1140 loss in 15 minutes. Don't think it wont happen because it will.

jfc 5th July 2003 10:56 AM

Puntz,

What on earth are you trying to do!

You start off describing an outlay of 2 to return 3 - i.e. win 50%

So if you outlay 14 you should get 21 back.

NOT 28!

7 chips profit is NOT going to help recover the 2+6 you lost before, let alone make the 1 chip profit you want.

You need to win 9 which means betting 18.


I told you at the start that you simply have to TRIPLE your last bet after a loss.


I am assuming that you want to grow your original bank by 1 chip after each win.

If not then please explain what you are trying to do, leaving out the distracting Nostradamus crap.







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