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stebbo 20th October 2003 08:20 PM

Hi All,

trawling the 'Net over the past few days I've come across a number of sites that offer services to alert their subscribers to arbitraging opportunities, and also to bookies who are offering overly generous odds on certain events.

I'm wondering if there's anyone on these lists who have used or are using any of these services, and who might care to share their experiences (either on or off list).

Cheers,
Chris.


becareful 20th October 2003 09:13 PM

Chris,

I was on one of those mailing lists for a while but the problem is you need literally dozens of different accounts with the various overseas sports bookmakers to take advantage of the stuff they send. The average opportunity seemed to give a profit of around 2% and to me it just didn't seem worth the risk in having lots of funds sitting in offshore bookies accounts waiting for the opportunities. If you didn't leave the funds in the accounts then the fees most of them charge for deposits & withdrawals would eat up all the profits but if you do leave the funds in the accounts if one bookie went bust you could wipe out a whole years profits! No doubt some people make a decent amount of money out of it but you would need a rather large bankroll to make it worth the hastle at only 2% per "trade".

Gamblor 6th November 2003 03:03 PM

In aussie betting sites I once saw an arbitrage but it was very low (only a couple of percent).

Mark 6th November 2003 05:11 PM

Give me .5% on Betfair, I'll grab it every time.

stebbo 6th November 2003 10:03 PM

Hi Mark,

how do you take advantage of this? do you have a software program which places the bets for you? I've seen an occasional race here and there where I thought I could get the advantage, but the market seems to be moving very quickly, and if I did it manually I think I'd lose the advantage before I was finished. Is this just a case of being ready for it to happen, or is there some other method?

Cheers,
Chris.

Mark 6th November 2003 10:48 PM

Stebbo

You must be one of these young'ens

Mark 6th November 2003 10:58 PM

Sorry pressed submit too soon.

No offence meant by the word "youngen's", just that everyone these days assumes that you need some sort of program or spreadsheet to do things.

Quick mind, (maths was the only subject I passed in year 12), quick typing, and a calculator by my side, these are my tools.

As an example...a 3 horse race, with plenty of $$$ available to lay at say $2, $2.50, & $9.40, (100.64%),lay $250, $200, & $53, takeouts = $500, $500, & $498.20...hold = $503. Guaranteed $3 profit. Now before anyone says that's not worth it, consider doing it 5,6,7 or 10 times, soon becomes worth it. Also works backing the lot when you can.

:smile:

stebbo 7th November 2003 09:15 AM

Hi Mark,

I'm happy to be called a youngen :smile:

I can see that the smaller the field the easier it would be... I normally don't even look at small fields from a punting perspective, so I must start taking note now.

Cheers,
Chris.

Mark 8th November 2003 12:19 AM

Stebbo

I just managed to lay 3 runners in a 4 horse field at 108%, during the running !!!!!
Bless those 2.5 mile hurdle races.

:grin:

crash 11th November 2003 08:15 AM

The best arbitraging oppurtunities will be found on the dogs and harness. Regular as sunsets.

Cheers.

[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2003-11-11 09:15 ]


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