Heres a plan that has some very profitable days.

1)Bet Sat. only
2)Focus on the top 2 selections as shown in your most favored column.
3)Target only the races which ARE NOT part of the Extra & Daily TAB Doubles as shown for your state.e,g. If your newspaper shows doubles in races 3,4,6,7.
we would target races 1,2,5,8 the logic is that doubles seem to attract a number of horses similar in class ability, therefore harder to separate for the tipsters.
4)With the top 2 in the Most Fancied column as shown in the Courier Mail or Weekend Australian etc.we now look up the AAP Racing Neural site.
5)The selection from our top 2 ,is the one with the lowest Neural rating points,that right the lowest not highest ,as long as its not further down than ranking No.6, if it is , we bet the remaining selection that is in the top 6 Neural rating points.
We use the std. factory Neural settings.
6) We do not make adjustments for the top 6 Neural settings for scratchings.

Lets see how it went last Sat17 Apr.using the Courier Mail.

Syd.
5 selections for 3 wins ( there were 9 races that day) $5.90,6.30,3.10

Bris.
4 sel for 2 wins $4.10,2.50

Mel.
4 sel for 1 win $3.70

Total 6 wins fron 13 races 46% SR
O/L $13 Ret$21.60=$8.60 =66% POT

Now that's what I call a back fitted system !!

Sounds interesting Bhagwan, will keep a watch on it as I have been playing with those neurals for years now.

Cheers.

bhagwan, whilst on the subject of neural systems i found this one to have a good strike rate, but selections usually very short priced...

1. top neural rated at least 50% higher than 2nd rated selection

2. top tabq rater at least 5 points higher than 2nd top rated

not many selections and usually short but good strike rate...try betting those ones $3 or better...

cheers,
noel

Hi All,

Geoff Lodge uses these for the bases of his ratings. He went well for a while.

Does anyone else have any ideas for winning using these?

Regards

Hi Crash,
Thanks for your responce,
With all due respect,I wish I could develop systems based on the future data ,but that`s what form analysis is about, is`nt it? what the horses have done in the past? not what they have not done ?

If one wants to base their criteria on pure horse form analysis ,one can`t go past the Racing Neurals , look how many top selections pay next to nothing whenever they ever get up.

That`s because form is form ,& went it does match up to result, it pays ************ all.
So to get value ,one has to look outside the paradyme& sometimes the patabymes match therefore quids in the back pocket.

Keep in mind the the top 2 conscences panel has a strike rate of 45% year in year out.

Bhagwan, interesting about your top 2 (i.e. 45%) just wondering if the same applies to where the pre-post price is quoted the same ie. 2 quoted as joint fav.???? just something I've noticed as a good SR.

The stats show that duel faves get up 45% ,the trick is securing value.
What I call value is $3.20+

Bghwan. Totally agree with what you say.The form stacks up beautifully BUT the prices in general WOEFUL which does reflect the form runners.
The trouble I found is that if your waiting for a reasonable price and in your scenario a minimum of $ 3.20 or so theres just too long a wait between selections.A bit impractical for most of us but an excellent way to isolate the best runner(s) in a race.
Probablty another way to use them is to isolate a runner or 2 thats the most immediate danger to the Neural top rated that represents value.You would of course lose more than you,d win but thats the case in any form of betting isnt it?
Cheers.
Darky.

Geezzz, take a joke Bagman [ If I misread your response, the joke is on me :smile: ]!

Been off line with an OS crash and doing THREE fresh XP installs [if anybody has a ata/raid h/drive, DON'T press F6 when asked, PRESS F5 and select ACPI interface and save yourself OS problems after the install !!!].


One problem for the price you want as I see it Bagman is the higher the price the lower the SR within the 45% SR of the top 2. [ in other words the shorter the price the higher the SR and vis-a-vis that evens out to 45% SR for all runners regardless of price [within top 2].

Put another way, you will loose [not win] the same amout of money backing all the $3.20 only runners as you will all the $1.80 only runners.

Value [or lack of it] could be at either end of the top 2 price range, but the only way to decide what was genuine value was after the runner had won.

To pin-point those winning value [there ain't no value in loosers regardless of price] runners, takes good old fashioned reasoning and personal choice based on the stats. at hand and how good you are at arriving at your final decision as to what the genuine value runner was.

All the stats. in the world by themselves will lead you to only 30% winners. Any improvment on that comes from the punter I think.

Cheers.


[ This Message was edited by: crash on 2004-04-27 06:34 ]

Bhagwan,ya dudded yourself mate,it adds up to $25.60 didvidends,profit $12.60,how was last week?? cheers