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jacfin 5th October 2004 08:22 PM

Rules ..
Eliminate Sat Metro meetings
Consider TAB No 1.
To be a selection it must be listed to carry at least 4 kg above the limit weight in the race.
It also must be listed to carry between 0.5 kg and 2.5 kg more than TAB No 2. ( If No 2 is scratched use No 3 ).
I was amazed when I checked the 4th and 5th of October. There were 20 selns for 6 winners and 16 placegetters for a LS profit of 14 and 12 units resp. I'm sure that this is an abnormally good result but would appreciate someone running it thru their database.
For those of you that don't know the listed weight is the weight next to the horses name disregarding allowances and the limit weight is the weight next to the lightest weighted runner ( or runners ) in a race, also disregarding allowances.


[ This Message was edited by: jacfin on 2004-10-05 21:23 ]

[ This Message was edited by: jacfin on 2004-10-12 11:58 ]

peakester 5th October 2004 11:28 PM

Jacfin,

Congrats on your selections today - Bathurst Towering Success, Townsville Spy's Eclipse & Vitegic - all winners
Would your system also include Bathurst Race3 No 2 (1 a late scratching) - $16.20 win $4.40 place as it met weight rules?

Cheers!



jacfin 6th October 2004 09:40 AM

Peakester
It would fit within the intent of the rules and I would consider it a selection.
I didn't notice it when I was checking the results but, as I wasn't actually betting on the selections, it did me no harm.
I would have shed a silent tear if I had been betting and missed it.

kiwi 10th October 2004 01:46 PM


G'day Jacfin,

The No1 system can lead to quite a few horses weighted 57.5 kg and above.

They have to be very good to win with that sort of impost.

I suggest where the horse is 57.5 kg and above the selection becomes the No2 horse.

darkydog2002 10th October 2004 02:46 PM

Here,s a few weight stats for anyones interest (courtesy of Malcolm Knowles research)

56.5 KG - 57.5 = 10.2 % of runs = 15.5 % of wins.

58 - 59 2.7 % of runs = 4.8 % of wins

59.5 - 60.5 0.4 % of runs =0.7 % of wins

Cheers.
darky.

thoroughbred 11th October 2004 06:37 AM

Quote:
Here,s a few weight stats for anyones interest (courtesy of Malcolm Knowles research)
56.5 KG - 57.5 = 10.2 % of runs = 15.5 % of wins.
58 - 59 2.7 % of runs = 4.8 % of wins
59.5 - 60.5 0.4 % of runs =0.7 % of wins


When you look at these figures rationally
you find :-

56.5 KG - 57.5 RF of 1.52
58+ RF of 1.77

Hence >= 58kgs is the better chance.


darkydog2002 11th October 2004 11:31 AM

THOROUGBRED.Yep.The moral of the story for me at least is to concentrate on those horses with the greater chance of winning.
Those at 55 kg up.
Cheers.
Darky.

thoroughbred 11th October 2004 03:26 PM

Quote:
On 2004-10-11 12:31, darkydog2002 wrote:
The moral of the story for me at least is to concentrate on those horses with the greater chance of winning.
Those at 55 kg up.


Dear Mr Dog,

While I was lying here counting my shekels this warm pm I had a look at Weight Carried in HANDICAP races (NOT WFA or SW or JUMPS) ....

55 - 55.5 WIN RF 0.85
56...............1.05
57...............1.20
58...............1.31
59...............1.39
60+..............1.15

the sample was 452,303 runs in 71,845 races.

Less than 56.0 (carried) is statistically not good and >60 we start to reduce our effectiveness.

sportznut 11th October 2004 04:11 PM

Excuse my ignorance, but what does the RF stand for?

thoroughbred 11th October 2004 04:40 PM

Quote:
On 2004-10-11 17:11, sportznut wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but what does the RF stand for?


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