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POSITIVE PETER 11th February 2005 05:58 PM

SYSTEMS HELP
 
I AM A FIRST TIME USER BUT AN AVID PUNTER. I HAVE AN IDEA REGARDING A PARTICULAR ASPECT OF FORM WHICH I HAVE NEVER SEEN MENTIONED IN SYSTEMS EITHER COMMERCIAL OR PRIVATE . VALUE BEING THE KEY IT SEEMS TO THROW UP WINNERS IN THE 8-1 TO 20-1 PRICE BRACKET. I HAVE NEVER TESTED MY IDEA BUT WOULD LIKE TO DO SO MYSELF. CAN ANYONE OFFER ANY ADVICE REGARDING A FORM DATABASE FROM WHICH I COULD TEST IT. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED

marcus25 11th February 2005 06:10 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by POSITIVE PETER
I AM A FIRST TIME USER BUT AN AVID PUNTER. I HAVE AN IDEA REGARDING A PARTICULAR ASPECT OF FORM WHICH I HAVE NEVER SEEN MENTIONED IN SYSTEMS EITHER COMMERCIAL OR PRIVATE . VALUE BEING THE KEY IT SEEMS TO THROW UP WINNERS IN THE 8-1 TO 20-1 PRICE BRACKET. I HAVE NEVER TESTED MY IDEA BUT WOULD LIKE TO DO SO MYSELF. CAN ANYONE OFFER ANY ADVICE REGARDING A FORM DATABASE FROM WHICH I COULD TEST IT. ANY HELP WOULD BE APPRECIATED

Hi Peter!
I'm positive there are at least a dozen of us here with a database good enough to help you out, BUT you are asking for a database with form! not help with your idea.
There are a number of vendors selling databases.
Cheers!

POSITIVE PETER 11th February 2005 06:35 PM

THANKS MARCUS25
 
THANKS FOR THE PROMPT REPLY . REGARDING FORM DATABASES FOR SALE CAN YOU MENTION WHO HAS THEM , THE PRICE AND SUITABILITY FOR TESTING A SYSTEM . I HAVE NOT DEVELOPED A SET OF RULES, I JUST HAVE ON KEY ASPECT TO BUILD A SYSTEM AROUND . I WOULD PREFER TO TEST IT MYSELF AS I DO NOT LIKE PEOPLE TO SPEND THEIR TIME ON MY BEHALF AND ALSO BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE VALUE LIES IN PEOPLE RULING OUT HORSES WITH THIS FORM PATTERN . EVEN HORSES THAT ARE THE FAVOURITE IN PRE-POST MARKETS ALLWAYS SEEM TO END UP AT GOOD ODDS.

Chrome Prince 11th February 2005 07:30 PM

Peter,

Forum terms and conditions prohibit us from even listing commercially available material. They are out there and there's more than just one ;)

marcus25 11th February 2005 07:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by POSITIVE PETER
THANKS FOR THE PROMPT REPLY . REGARDING FORM DATABASES FOR SALE CAN YOU MENTION WHO HAS THEM , THE PRICE AND SUITABILITY FOR TESTING A SYSTEM . I HAVE NOT DEVELOPED A SET OF RULES, I JUST HAVE ON KEY ASPECT TO BUILD A SYSTEM AROUND . I WOULD PREFER TO TEST IT MYSELF AS I DO NOT LIKE PEOPLE TO SPEND THEIR TIME ON MY BEHALF AND ALSO BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE VALUE LIES IN PEOPLE RULING OUT HORSES WITH THIS FORM PATTERN . EVEN HORSES THAT ARE THE FAVOURITE IN PRE-POST MARKETS ALLWAYS SEEM TO END UP AT GOOD ODDS.


Peter!
I was half joking!?
For a comprehensive database you are likely to pay thousands unless you can get it secondhand from someone.
I can understand your reluctance to part with your idea, but if it is a fizzer and you spent a lot of money on it what's the gain? Also are you a good enough programmer/user of databases to be able make the most of it?
Sometimes a bit of trust goes a long way mate!
Good luck with your project.
Cheers.

foxwood 11th February 2005 08:21 PM

watch for circling sharks
 
Hi Pete,
Just a word of caution from somebody who tried the same approach as yourself in asking for advice from the forum.
Some people will offer you help and once you have shared your ideas you will be deafened by the silence. I'm not saying that everyone is like that but I also don't know how you can pick the genuine offers from those just wanting your angle.
Good Luck

Shaun 11th February 2005 10:00 PM

here is a small list of trusted names that i know have data bases...forgive me if i leave anyone out...we all know the trusted people

Bhagwan
Chrome Prince
Sportz (not sure if has a data base)

generaly if they havem more than 300 posts they are probably ok....sorry if i left anyone out

Bhagwan 12th February 2005 09:52 AM

Hi Positive Peter,
I have a 4 year data base which cost me several thousand dollars TRB(The Ratings Bureau).
One could shell out the money or one could request a scan through our data base & I could email it back to you.
bhk at bigpond dot net dot au

System ideas are funny things , I have researched things say over 2000 races which worked well only to find the next 2000 races fell into a hole never to be seen again , so keep an open mind when analysing the shifting sands of form analysis.

marcus25 12th February 2005 10:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaun
here is a small list of trusted names that i know have data bases...forgive me if i leave anyone out...we all know the trusted people

Bhagwan
Chrome Prince
Sportz (not sure if has a data base)

generaly if they havem more than 300 posts they are probably ok....sorry if i left anyone out


Shaun!
So you think the quantity of the posts makes someone trustworthy? I could point out a few people here with over a thousand posts, hardly any is worth reading.
If I have nothing to contribute to the discussion I keep quiet.
I am sorry if foxwood had a bad experience, the people here represent the cross section of the population, so it can happen.
Cheers

Shaun 12th February 2005 03:53 PM

yes i agree...but my short list of names is the way to go


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