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U. S. Kentucky Derby.. for those interested.
Here is a link to the past performances of this years probable Kentucky Derby starters. (May 7)
http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/2005/pps041105.pdf Regards, Glenn |
thanks glenn, i remember we had a lot of fun with this last year. You have gone well in this in the past haven't you?
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I think i can narrow it down to the following:
High Limit Consolidator Sweet Catomine Afleet Alex Wilko Blues and Royals Sun King |
I must say that I know f**k all about all but one of those horses, but Blues and Royals absolutely SMOKED them at Dubai a couple of weeks ago. Will Sky televise this race?
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Just reading that Bellamy Road's last start was a g1 win by 17.5 lengths, thats impressive, must be a huge show.
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2005 Kentucky Derby
CONSOLIDATOR 12/1
Breeding: Storm Cat - Good Example (Fr) (Crystal Glitters) Breeder: Pacelco SA State: Kentucky Owner: Robert B & Beverly J Lewis Trainer: D. Wayne Lukas Jockey: Rafael Bejarano 2005 Record: 2 1-0-0 $159,000 2004 Record: 7 2-1-1 $480,260 Career Record: 9 3-1-1 $639,260 HIGH FLY 12/1 Breeding: Atticus - Verbasle (Slewpy) Breeder: Live Oak Stud State: Kentucky Owner: Live Oak Plantation Trainer: Nicholas Zito Jockey: Jerry Bailey 2005 Record: 4 3-0-1 $871,500 2004 Record: 2 2-0-0 $25,800 Career Record: 6 5-0-1 $897,300 SUN KING 8/1 Breeding: Charismatic - Clever But Costly (Clever Trick) Breeder: Cambridge Farm & James Daniel Conway State: Kentucky Owner: Tracy Farmer Trainer: Nicholas Zito Jockey: Edgar Prado 2005 Record: 2 2-0-0 $169,800 2004 Record: 4 1-0-2 $244,850 Career Record: 6 3-0-2 $414,650 BELLAMY ROAD 4/1 Breeding: Concerto - Hurry Home Hillary (Deputed Testamony) Breeder: Dianne D. Cotter State: Florida Owner: Kinsman Stable Trainer: Nicholas Zito Jockey: Javier Castellano 2005 Record: 2 2-0-0 $471,000 2004 Record: 3 2-0-0 $140,400 Career Record: 5 4-0-0 $611,400 ROCKPORT HARBOR 15/1 Breeding: Unbridled's Song - Regal Miss Copelan (Copelan) Breeder: Heiligbrodt Racing Stable & Taylor Made Farm Inc. State: Kentucky Owner: Fox Hill Farm Trainer: John Servis Jockey: Stewart Elliott 2005 Record: 1 0-1-0 $50,000 2004 Record: 4 4-0-0 $210,300 Career Record: 5 4-1-0 $260,300 LONG SHOT....Buzzards Bay :) Hello Glenn...how does this lot measure up...!!!! Regards Will |
They look good, William. A few more prep races to run Saturday, and we'll have the whole picture. I will update the link after Saturday's Preps.
Regards, Glenn |
Just looking at the form I like the look of Noble Causeway he looks as though he has had some tough runs behind some of the better chances in the race with a better run in transit I think he has pretty good chance really.
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Kentucky Derby Final Past Performances
http://www.drf.com/tc/kentuckyderby/2005/05kyderby.pdf
This is the final copy, complete with correct post positions. Good luck. I still like Afleet Alex. Regards, Glenn |
Here's my Kentucky Derby analysis as posted on a U.S. racing board that my cronies and I argue on: I'm sorry it's so long.
The serious business of finding a Kentucky Derby winner is a tough challenge; so many good horses. I love this race, when else can you get 50-1 on a horse who could beat anything on the grounds at your local racetrack? I'll give it a whirl here: There are definite qualities, preparation, training, past performance and connections that are almost always present in any KD winner. Let's start handicapping the field the way I like to, by eliminating those who Derby historical stats say have No chance whatever, then reload, and separate the contenders. Since we're seeking the winner only, we will likely later pick up a few throwouts for the win for use in the exotics. Derby fact #1: No horse since 1882 has won who has had no 2 year old experience. Bye, Greeley's Galaxy. Derby fact #2: One horse with fewer than 3 prep races has won the Derby since 1949. Bye Coin Silver, High Limit, Flower Alley, Wilko, BELLAMY ROAD, Closing Argument. (that rule kicks ********, doesn't it?) Double eliminated, Greely's Galaxy. Derby fact #3:No horse has won the Derby that had less than 5 career starts since 1918. Triple elimination : Greely's Galaxy, Double elimination for High Limit, Flower Alley. Derby fact #4: No horse with more than 4 weeks off has won the Derby since 1955. Bye, Noble Causeway, High Fly. 4 others at exactly 28 days are "iffy", including, Yes, Bellamy road (haha) Derby Fact #5: No horse running less than a triple digit Beyer figure, save 1, has won the Derby in 20 years. Bye, Sort It Out, Andromedia's Hero, Coin Silver (double ), Flower Alley(3x), Greater Good, Giacomo, Spanish Chestnut, Wilco (2x), Don't Get mad, Buzzard's Bay. There's more, but we don't even need it. If I got your longshot, well, Don't Get Mad. Let's not be Going Wild; have a big shot of Buzzard's Bay and let's Sort it Out. It's for the Greater Good, whilst I make my Closing Argument. Roger, Wilco? You'd have to be from Greeley's Galaxy and be Andromeda's Hero to not High Fly and bet your High Limit, since protecting your Coin Silver is a Noble Causeway. HAHA. Now, let's find that winner. Of the survivors, We have Sun King, Afleet Alex, Bandini and Going Wild. Nice, huh? Only 4 of 'em left to uh, Sort It Out. HAHA. TA Derby rule#1: Look for 100+ Beyer efforts, at ANY distance, as a 2 y.o. Adios, Bandini, Sun King. TA Derby rule #2 Look for 5 furlong work of 1:00 flat or less in the past 7 days prior to the race. (DoubleX) Sun King, Bandini. TA Derby Rule #3 Must have a top 4 finish in last prep race, and it must be a major league prep race. Bye Going Wild. So here we are, only perhaps 1/3 of the winning historical data factors sorted, (I know many more) and we have Afleet Alex winning the Roses on May 7. Like it or not, thats the conclusion of my fair, rational analysis of the race. Afleet Alex has had by far the best prep of any starter in the Derby. The only negative I can find is his lack of a seasoned, name rider, which I'll overlook because: 1. Rose has won his every mount on Afleet Alex, they seem to "fit" each other. 2. Being merely a presser, not a come-from-behind type pace runner, the talent of a major rider (to avoid traffic problems, etc.) is not likely a factor. Exotic wise, I'd surely use the "Final Four", Afleet Alex on top with Sun King, Bandini and (believe it or not) Going Wild. Additional longshots I like are:Greeley's Galaxy, High Fly, and Wilko. Use Bellamy Road if you like him, but I won't. He is very likely to "bounce"from his 120 Beyer figure and run up the track, to the sheer amazement of the chalk-eating public. I am advised by powerful sources that a 24 point Beyer increase between races is either the next Triple Crown Winner or, much more likely, a total non-factor due to 3 y.o.s with an over 15 Beyer improvement bouncing. The bigger the increase, the bigger the likelihood of failure. Only 18% run well after a 20-29 point Beyer improvement. You are now advised; go to the mutual window Saturday and fill your boots with gold. Regards, TheAvenger « Last Edit: Today at 22:14:41 by TheAvenger » Logged -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Absolutely nothing is absolutely free. |
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