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Benny 22nd April 2005 05:24 PM

Form Study
 
How should study the form and get serious with picking winners?

What steps should i in my study of the form?

Any suggestions are most welcome.

Benny

Bhagwan 22nd April 2005 10:44 PM

Hi Benny
Heres a way of backing a bunch of winners without too much form study.

Grab a copy of the Weekend Australian
Target the top 2 in the Most Favoured Column.(these win 45% of the time year in year out)
Target races where the whole field has had 2+ career starts , otherwise no bet that race.
Your selection is the one with the most recent start .
If both have the same last start days since last run, back both for the same amount.


Cheers.

Chrome Prince 23rd April 2005 03:08 AM

What is the result?

How many bets?
How many winners?
How much profit?
Average dividend?

Chuck 23rd April 2005 06:53 AM

I don't have the australian, but in the Sydney Morning Herals today there is

Randwick:
3-1 Wasimah
5-7 Stylish Bow

Caulfield:
1-2 The Boot
7-2 Perlin

Doomben:
3-2 Maizcay Miss
6-11 Octanee

Cheltenham:
1-1 Davout
8-2 Tulum

hawkeye 23rd April 2005 10:42 PM

paper tips
 
rule 1 take no notice of tips in any paper,or the prices listed.
89%OF TIPSTERS ARE NOT FAIR DINKUM ITS THE B SET THEY BACK SOMETHING ELSE AT THE CORRECT ODDS. MATE DO YOUR OWN FORM AND LISTEN TO ANY ON TRACK MOVES,MONEY TALKS BULL******** WALKS

jfc 24th April 2005 05:33 AM

Wouldn't it be nice if the contents of a thread bore some resemblance to its title?

Instead of something about Form Study, there is an immediate slump to the opposite. Systems which require no mental effort on the part of the user.

A system based on following tipsters is about as bad as you can get. It promotes popular overbacked selections. In other words "Taking Unders" which is the guaranteed road to perdition.

You are far better off doing some rudimentary form to find a well-credentialed runner which has NOT been tipped and finding some way of backing it. Whether through Austote, Betfair the NSW fire-sale Exacta or other exotics.

HawkEye, glad to see we share similar sentiments. Like your style.

Bhagwan 24th April 2005 06:09 AM

Chucks Results
8 bets for 7 wins = 87.5% SR
O/L 8.00
Ret 11.30
Prof 3.30 =41.25% POT

Sportz 24th April 2005 06:26 AM

It was actually 6 from 6 Bhagwan, but Chuck seems to have only used the top two in the most favoured column for the whole meeting or something, not the top 2 in each race which is what you suggested.

From my checking, your idea did VERY well in Sydney but not too well in other states. Perhaps you should have a limit on the field size of 8-10 runners. And the 'most recent runner' rule actually deleted a couple of good winners, so I'm not sure.

davez 24th April 2005 10:24 AM

benny, ones form study evolves to become a very individualistic beast, so to start off i suggest -

1. understand a regions class structures - if you are betting all over the shop then STOP and concentrate on a weeks racing within one state. take notes & do this for as long as it takes, without this fundamental understanding you are doomed.

2. make an effort to understand weight, at the end of the day the handicapper does a lot of our work for us - there IS a reason why nag A is carrying 6kg more than nag B.

3. dont bet on sh.it - one should be able to review a days racing and eliminate more than 2/3 rds of a states races as being a waste of ones time.

4. pygmies - used to think they made a difference, these days I am not so sure.

5. trainers - see 4.

6. tips - never, ever follow another’s tips - if they had any credibility you wouldn’t know about them.

7. as much as i do enjoy this forum, never make the mistake (as i have several times), when you have had a bad days punting after doing "the form" for about 6 hours the night before ,of thinking that there is a easy "system" out there which will turn your $2 coins into $100 bills - it dont work that way. however do read thru the past threads on this site, there are some gems of info & ideas which can assist you in your struggle.

8. i am sure there are a dozen other issues i should mention but my head is hurting after last nights celebrations following mardi gras effort at doomben yesterday :). also, never brag after a win, people will think you are an obnoxious ********er :)

monkeyinjapan 24th April 2005 04:53 PM

Hi Benny,

I think the formguide you buy is important as well. I use Allan Nuss's "Bizzy Form" programme, which works with Cyberhorse data. The presentation of the form is fantastic, as well as being very comprehensive.

Monkeyinjapan


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