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Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 97
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![]() The problem, as I see it, is that we're no longer up against our friendly local bookie who was happy to adjust the odds for his 'friends' and 'slip' them on a newbie. Now we're up against the... |
Forum: General Topics
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Replies: 18
Views: 134,152
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![]() The more I play with the stats the more i realise that the price is the indicator of success. This table looks at races (287,983) and uses TAB price with Fav. Rank to generate WSR's. The selected... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Views: 325,333
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Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 120
Views: 356,199
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![]() Let's try something that stands up. Country Trax. 8 - 14 Field First Starter .... Favourite @ TAB +/- $2.60 Take $2.90+ anywhere else that you can get it. :-) |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 12
Views: 60,142
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![]() ORIGINAL ALL races [40k+] gives a POT result of (15.75%) .... WSR 21.41% $3.94 Sat Metro [16.5K+] gives a POT result of (15.26%)...... WSR 19.74% $4.42 Moving on to 3rd up ........... all... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 12
Views: 60,142
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![]() .... and so we look at 20k+ qualifiers 2k won @$1.18 (on average TAB) Doesn't add up. |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 66
Views: 233,474
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![]() A sensible place to start. Sprint race, established rider, AND two other Ratings agencies "rate" the horse. Then you refine their estimates. If it works, why not. |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 95
Views: 466,632
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![]() Quite right UB, my apogolies .... what I was trying to refer to was the price that Betfair includes in its' results data .... not the Betfair SP which is a totally different animal as you point... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 95
Views: 466,632
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demodocus
![]() There is a problem with using Betfair prices. The SP doesn't usually match the price that the horse was actually bet at ..... it's simply the 'last price matched'. If you look under the LHS tab on... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 25
Views: 50,495
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![]() So, using exactly the same data and conditions I had a look at SUM of last 2 starts Beaten Dist rather than Place. <=1 ..... 18.63% 2 .......... 16.23 3 .......... 15.31 4 .......... 14.04 5... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 25
Views: 50,495
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demodocus
![]() Wandering into the realms of fantasy. Here's a quick go using a sample of 288,224 as follows:- Today's Going = Good Distance <=1650m. DSLS <=30 Field 8 - 14 Prev. Races >=4 |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 25
Views: 50,495
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Forum: General Topics
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Replies: 4
Views: 17,857
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demodocus
![]() U/B I'd really appreciate anything like this (in .xls or .qpw or dbf format) that you can zip and send to demodocus_at_iinet.com.au. |
Forum: General Topics
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Replies: 4
Views: 17,857
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![]() Here’s a wee request for those of you who view punting as an interesting mathematical exercise (as I do). In the Forum “worst system ever” I showed that it is possible to make a profit (24th April... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 13
Views: 33,358
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demodocus
![]() Perhaps a little strange but not beyond the bounds of possibility. Over 15 years it's (System 2) delivered +/- 25% WSR at AvTab of +/- $3.60 POT -5.5% but all dependant on DSLS. The problem for the... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 4
Views: 14,231
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![]() Whoopee dooooo!! EXACTLY. There is very little difference in results from Country Maidens to Group1 races. 8 -14 starters ALL Going Fav results Maidens ....... 34.10% $2.62 Group .......... 33.05%... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 9
Views: 18,588
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![]() Mornin' o bronzed one :-), Looking at Top 4 .... Using the .xls example and going for a 72% WSR (AND remembering that it's TAB results) we get a long term result of $1.18 as opposed to a B/E need... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 9
Views: 18,588
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![]() The other day an unhappy chappy on this board remarked that nowadays it was necessary to bet two horses in a race in order to achieve satisfactory results. This, of course, leads to the heinous... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 44
Views: 160,705
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![]() Neil, something to think about ........ There needs to be some incorporation of Field Size in your assessment. EXAMPLE USING... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 3
Views: 14,409
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demodocus
![]() I had a look at your query and using the much maligned TAB prices .... Taking 395,909 horses in races of 8 to 14 starters (and NO other criteria) we find that : Prices of $1.50 to $5.00 produce an... |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 5
Views: 18,477
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Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 5
Views: 18,477
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demodocus
![]() Ocho, I posted a series of .pdf tables on this earlier this year on the Forum. If you can't find them contact me on atreusatiprimusdotcomdotau and I'll see what can be done. |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 10
Views: 26,959
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![]() ALL Good* ..... 32.47% ... (146,355) Soft* ....... 31,05% ... ( 61,354) Heavy* .... 29.69% ... ( 17,944) 12 - 14 starters ONLY Good* ...... 29.19% .. 45,386 Soft* ........ 27.40% .. 20,364 |
Forum: Horse Race Betting Systems
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Replies: 14
Views: 30,396
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demodocus
![]() Nicely put. The sad thing is that WHATEVER the pairing is (Fav1 to Fav 99) as a Dutch with Fav 2 to Fav 99 using TAB odds we're going to lose. Just do the numbers. The Race / horse choices are... |
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