Thanks for the info Crash and DarkyDog - very useful.

Crash mate - either I have been losing money on an imaginary bet called first 4 or you must also be a new comer?

I am originally from South Africa (no rugby or cricket jibes please) - the first 4 is called a quartet in SA.

Anyway - it is positions 1,2,3 and 4. Sometimes not offered on every race here in Aus.

I guess my system needs some refining before I continue with the Aussie races.

Cheers

Murgo