Guess the preferred ratio depends on what price and strike rate is being acheived but the point is win betting is where the money is.

Betting 70 dollars the win on your figures

14/05 +189 v 159 or 154

Mon. 15th +119 v -91 or -126

Wed.. 17th. + 196 v +279 / +294

Thurs.18th. + 126 v +42 / +28

Fri.19th. + 357 v +65 / +21

10X60 ew +709 from 70pl. only +610

Profit from 70 the win = 987

If you can pick and bet horses that are showing a profit when the winning post is arrived at, from what I can see you are always better off on the nose without any place component at all. And as your place ratio goes up, down comes your profit.

Where a place component comes into its own is keeping the interior of your head smooth in between winners as I think you well pointed out before. That's the way I see and would think any difference between 6 to 1 and 5 to 1 would be marginal.

Anyway I'm just starting up as a will I or wont I punter and have decided upon 1 to 5 and am pretty much looking for, dunno, above $1.50 a place and see if I can lose the lot from there.

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