HA HA Kenny, told you the dangers of shooting your mouth off about place punters !!! I understand you but I tell you what, La Mer is definitely onto something in what he says. 'A steady earn' basically. Out go a lot of up and downs. The ups with the straight win, sure but there are also a lot of downs to balance them out.

It's pretty hard to hit a long run of outs on the place wagon if your a fair handicapper and make wise bets In the $2.50 to $7 the win range, the odds for the place are overall a very good bet in that price range.

Today I had [tipped in other forum page by me]:
Albury
r3/3 Waveband [late scr.]
r4/5 Warby Gold $6.90w $2p
r6/4 Written Habit $2p

10x60 bet. Ok 70w Warby gold would have been good for $483 return [less OL], but with Written Habit the return for my bets were $389[less OL], but if Warby Gold had placed for win only bets[?] A big Zero and down $140. Yesterday I had 3 bets for only 1 place, but at least I had a place collect which makes up for what I missed out on today for the win. I could get to live with that type of trade off. It certainly involves a lot less anxiety which is something that 'percentage of pocket' punters could sure do with [not everyone has a punting bank to soldier on through the outs of win betting and that's probably most punters].