Sorry, we agree you never suggested Sydney prices were as bad as SA or Qld.

Re: "You picked a good race in Melbourne where the flucs were drastic and the field only 11 runners."

That was done randomly from the most recent Saturday meeting.

Re: "Most other races on Sat besides the one you mentioned were around 120%."

We randomly selected three consecutive races at the Moonee Valley meeting. All TF markets were below 115%.

Re: "I can cop you critcising bookies that deserve it but protecting another bunch of bushrangers because you have a commercial interest does you credibility no good at all."

We do not protect bookmakers out of a commercial interest.

Re: "Top fluc is a service that punters provide bookmakers as they are forced to show their hand before betting opens. Fluctuations are always beatable on course. Don't for a minute dupe people into thinking this bookie is doing his clients a favour."

This service is available for betting on races in the four main states, not just one state. It is not possible to go to the racetrack and get decent odds on races from the other three states from the weak interstate betting rings.

A large punter or stable would obviously show their hand - you can hardly set up a plunge that way.

But for your average punter betting $50, $100 or so it is a tremendous deal. An intelligent punter can of course also add some bogus top fluctuation bets - good bets at odds you don't expect to get to confuse the issue if you are really worried about showing your hand.

Due to time constraints and cost we are not in a position to enter into lengthy debate or respond to every person who wishes to query us. Your point about TFs in Melbourne has been noted and we'll have a closer look in coming weeks.

Management.