Bhagwan, the way I see it with staking plans, is all you are doing is increasing stakes really. i.e. say you have a progression (to make it simple) of 1,2,4,8,16,32, etc. backing favouites (or anything else) then say over a series of 10,000 bets (just to prove the point) the strike rate would remain constant whether the horse had a dollar on it, or 2 or 4 or 8 etc etc. in other words there would be several hundred bets of $1, several at $2 , several at $4 etc etc each group would have an identical S/R, so therefore you may as well have backed at level stakes in the first place if you see what I mean?????? do you agree with this??? to me it doesn't matter how you muck around with the staking progressions, the above holds true through thick and thin, i.e. if there is not a LONG term level stakes profit, ther is no LONG term profit. Though I would concede that in the short term bringing lady luck into the equasion, you could win ,...... for now....