Everyone can argue all day long about who's method is more precise....it's pure semantics! How do you measure precise? And who says which "excels"?...we can all point to apparent weaknesses in someone elses thinking and of course each individual is going to believe that their own approach is better than others. It's an argument no one will ever win!

After re reading all the posts...my thinking is that this shouldn't be a debate about "mine is better than yours"....it shoul be an exchange of thoughts and ideas without judgement of what someone else does. It should be purely in the interest of broadening our scope of thinking, if not, at least some enjoyment from discussion with like minded inividuals. Of course individuals will sit there believing theirs is best...but that should really be kept to one's self.

While it is an extremely effective approach and one on which my income is based....i've got news for you all.....there is no such thing as "precise" when it comes to using speed data.

The science and detail behind how one's numbers are calculated is such a minor part of making a consistent profit. (As long as it is a solid approach with obvious problems catered for).

A frequent problem I see with many punters I talk to in my weekly activities is that they spend all their time focused on how to perfect some sort of measurement process...rather than spending their time on improving their ablity to make a profit...the two are entirely different.

Making a profit is about how to APPLY in practice the information one has. That does and will always have far greater impact on success than continual efforts to perfect the process to produce that information.

There are no fixed rules or magical formulas for applying information to make a profit. It's a skill you can only learn from experience. It's hard, that's why most prefer to stay in the realm of perfecting their information producing process and that's why most continue to lose at least a little.

There are plenty of smart people out there with great formulas and measurement processes...but few of them can make a profit. They don't nearly have the same intelligence or skill in how to apply those wonderful measurements.

To me, discussion on the application of speed information would be much more beneficial than a winless debate about which measurement process is better.

To start, would anyone care to talk about how they approach a race using their information?