Originally Posted by discipline pays

I know its only early days, but i can't see anyone outside of these two teams winning the flag. Home games,home finals strong lists all point in their direction.

Of the Victorian clubs Collingwood looks the goods at moment. Anthony Rocca is the key, he is a flood breaker who can kick the ball 65m and take a contested mark,key ingredients in modern game.

St Kilda and Geelong continue to disappoint but could get back on track , but are already 2/3 games off pace, while the other Victorian clubs don't look likely.