spot on dan. yell was constantly overs after running seconds to bel espirit then beating horses such as before too long and in fact may have beaten champion filly innovation girl(not sure about that if anyone can confirm would be appreciated). Gai always has over hyped horses cos she cant kepp quiet and the owners love her for talking their horses up. Baghdad is an example and so is time out/off(one of them is hawkes newcastle cup winner- not over hyped)