we could debate this point forever and the bottom line is personal opinion,which we are all entitled to.When Dittman made his comeback he was nearly 40,a big age difference to when Darren came back.As has been stated,the Hawkes/Beadman combo is nearly always at poor odds relative to actual winning chance.I don't think Darren slaughter too many of his rides,but the pressure on him to produce is enormous.Harking back to Lohnro,his judgement was way out that day.And in the light of Robbo and Newitt copping 3 months for not giving their mounts every possible chance to win/place,why was there no enquiry into that ride?If Darren thought it had gone flat,why did he not tell Hawkes before the race and ask not to ride it?As for Lohnro in the Cox Plate,maybe it was the jockey who can't handle the Valley,not the horse.Does anyone have Darren's s/r for all rides at that venue alone?