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Originally Posted by crash
I'm not on the esteemed judging panel [obviously you think you should be] and the fact you think it's an 'edited' list [it's the full list] and you have given White and Higgins question marks, just exposes your ignorance chrome.
Harry White won 4 Melb. cups in 6yrs.and among his many other achievements were 2 Cauifield cups, a Cox Plate, 3 Newmarket Handicaps and three Futurity Stakes wins among 200 feature race wins, 60 of them G1's. Harry was the best stayer and hands and heels rider that ever mounted a horse.
Roy Higgins achievements were as good as they ever get, including 10 jockey premierships [a record he shares only with Bill Duncan] and is one of only two jockeys ever to top a 'century' of group 1 winners, 108 of them. The other jockey being George Moore who won 119.
Higgins rode over 2,300 winners including two Melbourne Cups, a Caulfield Cup, a Cox Plate, 4 VRC Derbies, 5 VRC Oaks and 4 Blue Diamonds !
Only one other jockey [Greg Hall] managed to top the $30,000 fine for dangerous riding your mate Beadman coped and there not the sort of records that make Champion jockeys.
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Yeah it does come down to personal opinion.
People can see things 100 different ways.
I don't think I should be on the judges panel, I think all punters should be.
It shouldn't be a poularity contest, it should not be what the jockey achieved at his very best, it should be based on consistent riding skill.
Otherwise we may as well have Brew or Lovely Jubly as horse of the year.
I mentioned edited only because I replied to your post and then you added the list after. I didn't mean you had actually edited the list.
You can call me ignorant or whatever you like crash, but it consistently appears that anyone who has their own way of punting or their own way of looking at things is ignorant. It also appears that you think you are judge and jury in all things punting.
Calling people names is kids stuff.
Without mentioning names here (because of forum rules) the facts are that one jockey on that list who won a number of melbourne cups was well known for pulling horses, so much so, he earned a nickname that stuck with him for the rest of his riding life. Time after time he's position his mounts behind a wall of horses near the fence, with the horse bolting never getting a chance to get clear until it was too late. Then he'd return to the mounting yard with a wry smile on his face.
Another jockey also publicly admitted to doing worse than that....on more than one occassion. And that's just what he publicly admitted to.
But it seems you think the list should be based on the very best achievements of a jockey's career, rather than actual race skill.
Sure, jockeys don't win multiple cups and plates without skill, but it's trying your heart out
all the time and being more right than wrong and overcoming adversity in running, taking needle eye openings and winning.
Beadman has won two Melbourne Cups also.
In closing, you'd rather have a rider who pulled horses declared a champion, than a rider who got fined for giving his mount every possible chance to win?
What has the world come to.