cheers bhagwan and fellas. With the stats the 5, 6, 7th runs in produce most winners but I think the figures are slightly distorted by the fact most of those runs will
be over a trip. I'm looking at perhaps first up runners that have a proven first up record over sprint distances. Also stayers first up over 1400 can produce good prices. I admit you must be wary and i wouldnt bck them for a fortune but I think there is some value to be had. I think the advantage in 1st or 2nd up is you can selectively back them. i.e - a horse like spinning hill is a much better bet first up than she is 5th run in. so i feel you can have confidence with a good fresh up runner where backing a horse with reasonable form 5th run in you still need them to win and show something. It's not quite apples with apples but i think perhaps 1st uppers that are proven can produce some tidy profits. I would stay away from horses with a poor 1st up record and become increasingly wary as they get older. what do you punters think.

[ This Message was edited by: umrum on 2003-07-31 10:57 ]