The best markets for punters are available for win betting in suitable races where most horses have exposed form in Sydney and Melbourne on Saturdays.

Eg - Randwick R4 yesterday - finishing order with TF odds (top fluctuation bookmaker odds) and market percentage.

Geigeron $5.00 20%
Mustard $7.00 14.29%
Don Luigi $41.00 2.44%
Regal Express $2.30 43.48%
Where's Dad's Cash $71.00 1.41%
Super Dragon $8.00 12.5%
Bennetts Green $9.50 10.53%

Total market percentage: 104.65%

That destroys the tote which is a starting price market only at around 120%.

Many punters for various reasons do not obtain TF prices - or the even better odds that are often available in the bookmaker betting ring at the track.

But this does not eliminate the fact that these meetings in Sydney first and Melbourne second on Saturdays, with bookmaker TF win odds or even better odds available on track are the best for punters.

Most punters who bet money on the tote in win markets of 120% don't want to know about the above. They'll give the most ridiculous excuses about why it is not correct. After all, who wants to believe that they are consistently getting poor odds about many of their winners?

I've had numerous Pub punters tell me it is nonsense. Now what they have told me is patently absurd and WRONG.

When I attend metropolitan race meetings I have no problems averaging prices that are better than top fluctuation bookmaker odds with my bets.

And I don't just wager a hundred or two on a horse.

If punters are serious they MAKE SURE they do not miss out on these sorts of odds. Serious punters who want to give themselves the best chances of winning don't just play tote betting markets of 120% and worse.