Which brings us back to a very sobering thought, Wes, you have such a professional way of saying it, but basically yes, the lower the price the higher the S/R , REGARDLESS of where the selections come from. One step further, 45% of even money chances win REGARDLESS of where or who top rates em', etc etc etc i.e. about 21% of 3-1 chances win etc etc etc, REGARDLESS who considers them value and who doesn't, the end result after thousands of spins = "amazingly" a LOT of about 15-18%, sounds pretty close to the take out to me eh? (Bookies/Tote that is)