Just my 2 cents worth on value, e.g. Saturday Perth R3-3 Rosskaen, just b4 the jump is showing $5.40c for the win and $2.90c for the place, now as I see it @4.40-1 for the win = 1/3 odds a place (6 runners) so the place is worth 1.45-1, so @ 1.90 looks like ************ good value to me, just the way I see things?