wesmip1 how do you no the systerm looses u know if it has not one over 100 bets it might be a big winer on the next 100 bets. if it has not one over 1000 bets it might be a big winer on the next 1000 bets. Anyway NO need for systems if u use mind power visulisation and luky colors its a big winer last saturday i was on the lookout for horses with blue and white that got me leather at eagle Farm paid 80 dolars big bucks