Place betting needs heaps of one thing "Patience" King you found one last week that was paying $1.60 for the win, so $1.15c would have been acceptable, as it happened it won and paid $1.50c a place.... Dark Target,

that's the way to do it, fixed odds ? well yes if you can get em consistantly, other wise it's a case of watching the 3 totes (or more) place the bet at the death and hope, sure sometimes it comes back at $1.10c (but rare) sometimes it's even better than you hoped so you have to work on an overall outcome. In the end if you win you are very clever, if you lose, well they will all be saying "TOLD YOU SO"

My 3 last Sat, Elliotto rated at $1.25c, return = $1.40, Lambton Castle, Rated $1.37 return $1.30 (got it wrong) Given Vision Rated $1.37 return = $1.50c.

So you see you have two battles going on, the first is to actually back enough place getters to show a profit, and after the other battle of always trying to get value.

What ratings to use? don't ask me everyone has a different idea, but I think a good place to start is to look at the overall success rate in terms of P/L, say your ratings service shows 90% ROI, next step is to look at only betting when you can obtain 20% above the rated price, so you can see how I backed those 3 on Saturday, there was actually another 2 possible bets, as it happened both placed, one way under and the other returned right on 20% over but I missed it.

Like I said you really have to have your finger on the pulse place betting, thats why all my win plans/bets are designed to be placed BEFORE racing.

Good luck!