thanks paddy and boop. i backed clangalang straight out, the perth bookies bet 12/1 - fantastic. just before the start i said to a mate box 1,2,3, and 20 in the tri. cost myself 500. oh well it was a winning day anyway.

cheers
umrum

p.s i believe its caufield guineas day this week, a day where the toorak is also run, umrum is a big show on the leaders/on-pace bias at caufield. go you good thing umrum