crazybadger, Firstly thanks very much for that, I think I'm right in saying that in all those cases the figures imporoved quite dramatically from just Top Tip, and in all cases getting VERY close to break even for the place "MECHANICALLY" So one has to ask the question were those figures Unitab? if so the gurus tell me that one can expect about 10% improvement with BEST TOTE/SP, and almost 20% with Betfair, you can see where I'm heading here????

Late mail, is definitly another way top improve things BUT this ties one to within a few minutes of 1st race time in many instances.

Another consideration I suppose is METRO-V- PROVINCIAL/Country

And another one is that last start win auomatically cuts out all the maiden races.