Puntz,

The reason you never see a beaten length rule [far more logical than a place rule] is that it can't be run through a data base [backfitted]. I use 2.5 lengths from winner and importantly 'running at least 8th at the 800m' last start which puts the horse into the 'on the pace ' at least catagory. Like to see the stats freaks run that one on their data bases.
Totaly sound and rational rules continualy escape stats. backfitting [but win races]. You will NEVER see the armchair statsmen in any tipping comp. Why ? I wonder. Until they PROVE their point, their arrogance and methods should be ignored [frustrated mathematictians with a dribble from the corner of their mouths showing].

Ho Ho.

Cheers.