G'Day Steve, my bread and butter comes from PLACE betting, (albeit a tiny % on T/O) so I was really interested in your thread especially as I have never heard of the crowd that you mentioned.

Now I hope I HAVE missed something, but after perusing their site I can see no advantage guaranteed at all????

e.g. I mean IAS say that they pay best of at least 2 totes and that they are often better than 3, I say bool sheeet, they can never beat best of 3 totes + SP NEVER, NEVER.

And I can see no difference here, BUT believe me I want to be wrong, so explain how they can be of advantage? and I will swap tomorrow!

What we are hanging out for of course is this:

BEST OF 3 TOTES OR SP OR TOP FLUC ALL MEETS, WIN OR PLACE (possibly with a minimum price stipulation) are you listening bookies/exchanges? that's what we want!!