Osulji, thanks for the stats, most helpful, do you think that if being more selective, types of races etc etc, a better result could be achieved?

Mark, point taken, but then it makes you think that if the people in the industry with a hell of a lot of contacts and know how, that we will never have, can only manage to break even at best, where does that leave the rest of us???? I mean seems to me a lot of people should be writing for a position in the media if they can do so much better (present company excepted of course) But as Chrome says maybe with some tweaking some interesting results may be achieved.