Yeah Crash, I just have a small amount on them and dream about them all getting up. Hasn't happened yet but I'm working on it. Still wearing the cloth cap, braces and cardigan at this stage. As a gilded youth I remember in the early editions of Guiness Book Of Records seeing pictures of old codgers (like myself now) smiling grimly after having won millions of pounds for a penny. I'd like to be able to take on an 8 leg parlay for 1cent but the smallest amount you can put on is 50c (I've tried) and this turns into a big outlay thanks to the laws of mathematics.