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Old 22nd December 2009, 07:06 PM
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in black type there is more competition but higher prices.
and also when the good ones are firing the odds arent that great for the winners. patience is important over the recent times i recall some big winners e.g. douro valley won a group 1 with 27 points and paying $38. no form but reasonably fresh. maldivian won the cox plate 35 points.
course there are disappointments when they do nothing but i find that even when i think the form is good and have high expectations they let you down.
so in general over a long period of time e.g. 20 years i havent found one system more superior to others in strike rates except that black type horses tend to get up when the barrier is right at good odds. i recall mr orient winning two in a row in brisbane recently at good odds was placed at list level in 3/08 18/1/ listed horse from barrier was was good then won next start at double figures from wide barrier.
I find Adelaide and Perth hard to win at form seems to taper off quickly e.g. horses are often not good for more than one year and then reduced to the odd win. this is why i look for good odds i also think trainers are targeting a decent price. Getting repeat winners in hobart in recent times is scarce as hens teeth.I did back Danleigh 59 points when he won the manikato stakes group 1 from barrier 1. Its a hard game and I find mid-week racing to be fraught with danger and virtually am inactive these days during the week although i do the print out. monday and tuesday rarely returns a winner.
dont forget the test. points/10*price/year often this calculation will put the value down fairly low unless the odds are good or or the listed points are good.
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