Sandgroper, thanks for the feed back. Yes I was expecting the flak about the unraced TYO, what can I say.... much of my selection method is gut feeling, taking many other things as well of course including breeding, though I am far from an expert in any. But the outcome is that I can make a profit OVERALL, (although I was wrong in this instance) if I try to intoduce mechanical filters perse' I seem to miss a few losers but miss some good winners as well, I guess the bottom line is I still haven't quite perfected the art yet.
Re: Twice, yes it and So long Syd very close but taking the line through Head West had Twice on top, but of course extra 200m + 3rd run back from a spell,......... why didn't I see it? easy in retrospect isn't it? Well I'll keep trying!!