Cheers for that guys. I have also played with the Staking Machine after realising that it has lay plans on it. Seems the smoothest ride is shown nby using either liabilty types, or the maria staking plan. Sme of the progresive ones on there showed great steady profits for a long time, until one bad spell could wipe out months of hard work which would really do my head in!

At this stage Bhags I'm not going to give out the rules, as it has been a ongoing 3 year project which started out as a back method, only to find a great lay method, and back method from it. One thing I will say is that its actually really boring, as you are required to sit there watching prices all day, and I can't see a way of automating it.

Cheers