hermes, I know that in WA we have the TABform which gives you approximates for every race that the Super TAB allows you to bet on. This may exclude a number of the meets you wish to bet on, it may not, but it is calculated via a computer system and not some random guy taking a stab at it. It is a reliable source for the reasons you wish to use the information. Just ring up the Subiaco Newsagency, I'm sure they will deliver :razz: