Many thanks for that darkydog. I went to the Wizard website, read Warren's stuff and was none the wiser. So I read it again. I think I've got a handle on some of it now. It is a remarkable body of research. I can see why it has its fans. My personal problem is that its restricted to Sat. meets, whereas Sat. is usually my family day (also I lose on Sats. historically).I like the form cycle stuff. Very interesting. Also the Running Style data which I can adapt to a barrier scheme I have tried.

Since I prefer simple systems (comes from manual sampling) my eye is drawn to the panels.

How do the race poll results go over-all, do you know? How accurate are the published odds in general?

I'II buy a copy tommorow and have a look on Sat.

Cheers

Hermes