the anomalies vortech was explaining with the barriers scratchings (OBVIOUSLY) could also be explained by the starting prices of the horses that actually contested those barriers when i do a survey on barriers at certain tracks i split them into an odds group(odds on)(2.0-3.0)(3.1-6.0)(6.5-11.0)(12.0-26.0)(26.0>) this then gives me a clearer guide as to the barriers worth as you find certain barriers continue to have starters that start at long starting prices where other barriers tend to throw up horses at the lower end of the market thus giving false readings of a barriers actual worth talking straight statistics only here no form or assessments taken into account
cheers
garyf