It started at about 5.5 nsw and was fav for the place on that tab, started a bit longer on the VIC which reveals something., but was overplayed on the place

To me that said I had at least 18 points up my sleeve on the win margin to what I had it rated. For the exotics it meant it was really overbet, it was a dog you could only have included in the 3rd / 4th position and even if it did fill one of those positions you had an over lay.