Yes , I agree there Chrome.

With a number of these guys , including the ones in the US , they say if it was not for the rebates they receive, then their punting exercise would not be nearly as profitable.

In some instances, they would only have to break even at average, before rebate results, to show a profit.
Because once the rebate kicks in .
Bingo!
They are now in profit.

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