Sorry Bhagwan but I have to agree with Barny. It's not a case of 'winging & wining'. It's all to do with common sense.


This is a place to toss around ideas and pass on information, but to keep on with the same old same old gets beyond a joke. It's non productive. Most on this forum are educated enough to understand that systems like the ones you and Darky have been presenting lately have, in some form or another, been tried and tested and are the quickest way to the poor house.


There is some great information on here and some really interesting threads from some interesting people. Lets get positive and move with the times instead of presenting outdated information.


As for me passing on any worthwhile ideas and systems, I can't. So don't ask. I'm not a dreamer nor a gambler and I'm no closer to finding the Holy Grail now than I was 45 years ago.