Good read so far, Have to come back to it to finish. Hats of to "Phil" He is a far better man than me. One point comes over loud and clear:- The history ,the handicapping, the ratings are only part of the equation. They are the start of the exercise but the new knowledge :- the conditions of the track today and the condition of the individual horses today are the most important part of the equation. "Phil" had men on the ground feeding him this info, similarly the HK syndicates have men on the ground, and no doubt the majority of successful punters have to access this new knowledge to be successful. The handicappers job is to make all runners able to win. The trainers job is to make his horse most able to win. The jockeys job is to push and guide the horse to win. The bookies job is to make the punter pay. It is our job to sort the wheat from the chaff. Clearly we have to access more new knowledge. Beton