I agree with darkydog. Punters using popular filters are losing but they probably have a reasonable strike rate and that keeps them going - a lingering death of the punting bank by a thousand cuts!

I have been playing with UB's site and have found that I can get reasonable POTs by using uncommon filters but the payoff is low strikes rates of about 10% or less. This sr expects runs of outs of about 30 to 50 for confidence levels of 95% to 99%.

I recently posted a system that has produced a profit for the last three years but I have only kept accurate records since Jan this year and the profit has been very encouraging if it holds up. It only received one comment which just suggests to me that most punters are only comfortable with the popular filters even if they lose using them.