thanks Felicity might have a look....i am currently working on a ratings system useing the last 3 starts of prizemoney i think i need to brush up on my programing skills as it currently takes me about 30 seconds per horse to add information....and i have always said that picking your races is a good start to winning....just because they have 60 to 100 races on a saturday you dan't have to bet in all of them.