"I was simply saying the bookies set and control the lines, not the public."

Money talks.If no-one wants to buy,bookie needs to make the price more attractive by lengthening the odds.

"Tipsters (I'm talking media here, like the footy show, the tipsters in the paper etc) only try to pick the winner. They don't take value/prices into consideration. So why follow them? Why listen to them?
The opinions you want to place value on are those of sharps (serious & informed bettors who bet with an edge)."

Have your people ever played a game of football in their lives?.These tipsters lives revolve around football.

"Do you really think this will work? Common sense?"

I have the data,but am having difficulty writing an Excel program to analyze the data.
Looks like the old pencil and paper trick will rear its head.
I just want to find some authorities that I can compare my selections with.
These tipsters are not gamblers,so their selections are based on their footy knowledge and not biased by the prices available.
I have come up with 8 lots of information I am seeking.
1.Flat stake on all 1st selections
2.Flat stake on all 1st selection overlays using Fridays Sportsbet prices
3.Flat stake on all overlays using Fridays Sportsbet prices
4.Flat stake on all overlays over 15% using Fridays Sportsbet prices
5.6.7.8.Same conditions as above using assessed price percentage as stake

Anyway,stay tuned for the next installment.

Cheers Mo.